1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:06,390 {\an1}(male announcer) In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:06,420 --> 00:00:08,860 {\an1}the people are represented by two separate 3 00:00:08,890 --> 00:00:10,500 {\an1}yet equally important groups-- 4 00:00:10,530 --> 00:00:12,400 {\an1} the police who investigate crime 5 00:00:12,430 --> 00:00:15,230 {\an1}and the district attorneys who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:15,270 --> 00:00:17,670 {\an1}These are their stories. 7 00:00:17,700 --> 00:00:20,710 {\an1}[hard rock music] 8 00:00:20,740 --> 00:00:23,140 {\an1}Please tell me it's boxers. 9 00:00:24,110 --> 00:00:26,110 {\an1}[sighs] 10 00:00:26,140 --> 00:00:28,110 {\an1}Which way does the pointy one move? 11 00:00:28,150 --> 00:00:31,550 {\an1}♪ ♪ 12 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:37,620 {\an1}Check. 13 00:00:37,660 --> 00:00:39,420 {\an1}Drop 'em, dude. 14 00:00:39,460 --> 00:00:41,130 {\an1}I resign. 15 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:42,790 {\an1}Give it up, 16 00:00:42,830 --> 00:00:46,130 {\an1}or you can get these on your way home. 17 00:00:47,170 --> 00:00:49,070 {\an1} Quit screwing around, Amanda. 18 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:50,900 {\an1}Come on. 19 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,540 {\an1}Amanda, seriously, look. 20 00:01:05,450 --> 00:01:06,790 {\an1}About time. 21 00:01:06,820 --> 00:01:09,690 {\an1}And idea what it's like being stuck in here with a swinger? 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:11,060 {\an1}You're supposed to be the professional. 23 00:01:11,090 --> 00:01:12,690 {\an1}Did you get a time of death? 24 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,890 {\an1}11:00, give or take an hour. 25 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:17,900 {\an1}Now do your thing, please, so I can get her down. 26 00:01:17,930 --> 00:01:19,130 {\an1}Her name's Erin Garrett. 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,230 {\an1} She's the actress in some of these posters. 28 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:23,540 {\an1}She used some kind of nylon lashing. 29 00:01:23,570 --> 00:01:25,240 {\an1}Okay, you can take her down. 30 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:26,740 {\an1}(Cassady) Any forced entry? 31 00:01:26,770 --> 00:01:29,410 {\an1}The door was closed but unlocked. 32 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,280 {\an1}No sign of a struggle here. 33 00:01:32,310 --> 00:01:34,750 {\an1}This play like a straight-up suicide to you? 34 00:01:34,780 --> 00:01:36,550 {\an1}I don't know. She leave a note? 35 00:01:36,580 --> 00:01:38,350 {\an1}No. 36 00:01:38,380 --> 00:01:40,790 {\an1}Looks like her acting career was doing all right. 37 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:43,090 {\an1}Yeah, well, so was Marilyn Monroe's. 38 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:06,850 {\an1}was a very nice lady. 39 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,080 {\an1}I never would have thought-- 40 00:02:08,110 --> 00:02:10,220 {\an1}We noticed she didn't have a bed in her apartment. 41 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:11,180 {\an1}She lived somewheres else. 42 00:02:11,220 --> 00:02:12,520 {\an1}Rented the place out about two years ago 43 00:02:12,550 --> 00:02:13,580 {\an1}to use for an office. 44 00:02:13,620 --> 00:02:14,950 {\an1}Said she couldn't get any work done at home. 45 00:02:14,990 --> 00:02:17,090 {\an1} Do you know that address? I can get it for you. 46 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,160 {\an1} Do you know if she had any visitors today? 47 00:02:19,190 --> 00:02:21,260 {\an1}Nobody I saw. She pretty much kept to herself. 48 00:02:21,290 --> 00:02:23,530 {\an1}'Cept when her babysitter brought her kids to visit. 49 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,460 {\an1}Kids. How old? 50 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,130 {\an1}Little. Like one, three. 51 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:29,600 {\an1}This is really gonna be rough on her husband, huh? 52 00:02:29,630 --> 00:02:31,070 {\an1}She wasn't wearing a wedding ring. 53 00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:32,740 {\an1}Are you sure she was married? 54 00:02:32,770 --> 00:02:33,870 {\an1}Oh, yeah. 55 00:02:33,910 --> 00:02:36,110 {\an1}Landlord made him cosign the lease. 56 00:02:38,580 --> 00:02:40,210 {\an1}(Jonas) I-I don't understand. 57 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:42,280 {\an1}It doesn't make sense. 58 00:02:42,310 --> 00:02:45,850 {\an1}Mr. Faulkner, was your wife experiencing any problems, 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,320 {\an1}any personal setbacks? 60 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:48,650 {\an1}No. Erin was happy. 61 00:02:48,690 --> 00:02:50,460 {\an1}Nothing stressed her out, 62 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:52,860 {\an1}even when things weren't going her way. 63 00:02:52,890 --> 00:02:55,060 {\an1}Like her acting career? 64 00:02:55,090 --> 00:02:58,230 {\an1}Look, she knew she was never gonna be Julia Roberts. 65 00:02:58,260 --> 00:03:00,670 {\an1}She decided she wanted to write and direct. 66 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:02,270 {\an1}That's why she took that office, 67 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,570 {\an1}to focus on that. 68 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,470 {\an1}How 'bout you? Any problems on your end? 69 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:08,740 {\an1}No, not really. 70 00:03:08,770 --> 00:03:10,680 {\an1}What do you do? 71 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:12,610 {\an1}I co-own a framing shop in Chelsea. 72 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:15,350 {\an1}We do a lot of work for the galleries. 73 00:03:15,380 --> 00:03:17,520 {\an1}Forgive me, but I need to ask about your marriage. 74 00:03:17,550 --> 00:03:19,580 {\an1}I'm telling you, everything was fine between us. 75 00:03:19,620 --> 00:03:21,620 {\an1}I don't know how to make you understand this, 76 00:03:21,650 --> 00:03:24,090 {\an1}but Erin would have never done this to herself. 77 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,690 {\an1}Let me show you something. 78 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,030 {\an1}I took this last week in Central Park. 79 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:37,870 {\an1}That's Emily and Theo. 80 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:41,570 {\an1}Does this look like a woman who wanted to die? 81 00:03:43,010 --> 00:03:45,240 {\an1} (Rodgers) This was a healthy, active woman. 82 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,310 {\an1}No overt physical problems or latent pathologies. 83 00:03:48,350 --> 00:03:50,420 {\an1}No evidence of sexual assault. 84 00:03:50,450 --> 00:03:52,880 {\an1}Tox screen? Clean as yours, Detective. 85 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,820 {\an1}So the cause of death was neck compression from the hanging? 86 00:03:56,860 --> 00:03:57,920 {\an1}Technically, yes. 87 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,520 {\an1} (Green) But-- 88 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,930 {\an1}The noose is what killed her. 89 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:05,300 {\an1}But I found a small cranial fracture 90 00:04:05,330 --> 00:04:08,330 {\an1}that was impossible to detect at the crime scene. 91 00:04:08,370 --> 00:04:11,170 {\an1} And that is a subdural hematoma. 92 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,340 {\an1}Hell of a lot bigger than you'd see in a hanging victim. 93 00:04:14,370 --> 00:04:16,570 {\an1}So somebody hit her in the head first. 94 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:18,740 {\an1}She was unconscious before she was hanged. 95 00:04:18,780 --> 00:04:20,380 {\an1}What if she had received medical attention 96 00:04:20,410 --> 00:04:21,510 {\an1}after she was hit? 97 00:04:21,550 --> 00:04:23,280 {\an1}She'd have been good as new 98 00:04:23,310 --> 00:04:25,350 {\an1}after a few days in the hospital. 99 00:04:25,380 --> 00:04:26,650 {\an1}This was a murder staged as a suicide. 100 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:27,850 {\an1}Any suspects? 101 00:04:27,890 --> 00:04:29,820 {\an1}Well, the husband says everything was copasetic. 102 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:32,260 {\an1}But she wasn't wearing a wedding ring, and neither was he. 103 00:04:32,290 --> 00:04:33,690 {\an1}Not everybody does. 104 00:04:33,730 --> 00:04:35,460 {\an1}Especially if they're screwing around. 105 00:04:35,490 --> 00:04:37,700 {\an1}You're not buying the one big, happy family? 106 00:04:37,730 --> 00:04:38,900 {\an1}No one is as happy 107 00:04:38,930 --> 00:04:40,700 {\an1}as her husband makes them out to be. 108 00:04:40,730 --> 00:04:42,470 {\an1}But he was the one that kept insisting 109 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:43,970 {\an1}she wouldn't kill herself. 110 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,800 {\an1}Well, start looking at their insurance policies 111 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:47,940 {\an1}and financials. 112 00:04:47,970 --> 00:04:50,410 {\an1} (Cassady) Jonas Faulkner had a charge on his credit card 113 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,680 {\an1}to this hotel about two months ago 114 00:04:52,710 --> 00:04:55,010 {\an1}in the amount of $3,900? 115 00:04:55,050 --> 00:04:56,980 {\an1}He booked a room here for 13 nights. 116 00:04:57,020 --> 00:04:58,820 {\an1}(Green) Did he check in with luggage? 117 00:04:58,850 --> 00:05:01,350 {\an1}Mr. Faulkner prepaid for the room, but he wasn't the guest. 118 00:05:01,390 --> 00:05:03,920 {\an1}The woman who was with him was the one staying here. 119 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,190 {\an1}Uh, what did she look like? 120 00:05:06,220 --> 00:05:09,190 {\an1} Mid-20s, 5'10", long blonde hair. 121 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:11,730 {\an1} Do you have her name? I think so. 122 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,370 {\an1}She charged a few incidentals to her own credit card. 123 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,600 {\an1}Diana Rawlings. 124 00:05:15,630 --> 00:05:18,500 {\an1}Uh, her billing address is Saratoga Springs. 125 00:05:18,540 --> 00:05:20,340 {\an1} And you said she was with him? 126 00:05:20,370 --> 00:05:21,710 {\an1}You know, they were together. 127 00:05:21,740 --> 00:05:22,940 {\an1}Whenever I was at work, 128 00:05:22,970 --> 00:05:25,040 {\an1}he was, like, back and forth to her room. 129 00:05:27,780 --> 00:05:30,080 {\an1}(Diana) I teach third grade here. 130 00:05:30,110 --> 00:05:31,950 {\an1}Uh, it was our winter break. 131 00:05:31,980 --> 00:05:34,420 {\an1}I went to the city for the holidays 132 00:05:34,450 --> 00:05:35,590 {\an1}at the Downtown Grand. 133 00:05:35,620 --> 00:05:37,460 {\an1}Alone? 134 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:38,790 {\an1}That's right. 135 00:05:38,820 --> 00:05:41,390 {\an1}(Green) Do you know someone named Jonas Faulkner? 136 00:05:41,430 --> 00:05:43,230 {\an1}He's my half brother. 137 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,000 {\an1}Is this about Erin? 138 00:05:48,030 --> 00:05:49,830 {\an1}Uh, that's right. 139 00:05:49,870 --> 00:05:51,470 {\an1}Wait, you must have-- 140 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:54,140 {\an1}Oh, my brother treated me to that room for Christmas 141 00:05:54,170 --> 00:05:56,880 {\an1}so I could spend time in New York with Theo and Emily. 142 00:05:56,910 --> 00:05:59,110 {\an1}Please excuse us for not knowing. 143 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:01,610 {\an1}We're very sorry about your sister-in-law. 144 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:04,120 {\an1}But Jonas and Erin, they were okay? 145 00:06:04,150 --> 00:06:05,250 {\an1}Definitely. 146 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:06,650 {\an1}I would have known if there was a problem. 147 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,550 {\an1}Can you think of any reason 148 00:06:08,590 --> 00:06:11,160 {\an1}somebody would want to hurt Erin? 149 00:06:11,190 --> 00:06:13,160 {\an1}Erin wrote and directed a short film 150 00:06:13,190 --> 00:06:16,630 {\an1}about sexual repression of women in the Muslim world. 151 00:06:16,660 --> 00:06:18,930 {\an1} It's called Fire Under The Veil. 152 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,730 {\an1}She just found out that it got accepted to NoHo Film Festival. 153 00:06:21,770 --> 00:06:23,800 {\an1}I can understand why some people 154 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,840 {\an1}might find that subject matter offensive. 155 00:06:25,870 --> 00:06:27,810 {\an1}Erin told me there were some powerful images in the film. 156 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:29,410 {\an1}I know she downplayed it to Jonas. 157 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,240 {\an1}Why would she do that? 158 00:06:31,280 --> 00:06:32,410 {\an1}I think she was afraid 159 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,050 {\an1}that he'd make her pull it from the festival, 160 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,320 {\an1}that he'd be scared for her and the kids. 161 00:06:37,350 --> 00:06:39,020 {\an1}Can we see this film? 162 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:43,020 {\an1}Ask her producers. Woodmore Films. 163 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:45,490 {\an1}Erin became obsessed about the girls in Saudi Arabia 164 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,460 {\an1}who were beaten back into a burning school 165 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:50,060 {\an1}because they weren't wearing proper Islamic dress. 166 00:06:50,090 --> 00:06:51,430 {\an1}She wrote an amazing script, 167 00:06:51,460 --> 00:06:53,130 {\an1}and we decided to produce her film. 168 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,970 {\an1}The movie was about the fire? 169 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,400 {\an1}Only tangentially. 170 00:06:56,430 --> 00:07:00,140 {\an1}It's fictional, much more a meditation than a narrative. 171 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:02,210 {\an1}But it's dedicated to the girls who were killed. 172 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,080 {\an1} You start questioning people's religious beliefs, 173 00:07:04,110 --> 00:07:06,340 {\an1} and somebody's bound to get offended. 174 00:07:06,380 --> 00:07:08,210 {\an1}That's what drew me to the project, 175 00:07:08,250 --> 00:07:11,880 {\an1}the fact that some scenes are provocative, disturbing. 176 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,250 {\an1}Give us a "for instance." 177 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,150 {\an1}A young Muslim woman masturbating 178 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:18,690 {\an1}while a Mullah sings from the Koran in the voiceover. 179 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:20,190 {\an1}Wow. People have seen this? 180 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:21,630 {\an1}Not yet. 181 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:24,300 {\an1}But they will when the film premieres at the festival 182 00:07:24,330 --> 00:07:25,400 {\an1}in the spring. 183 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:27,170 {\an1}Who has seen it? 184 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:28,530 {\an1}Me and my partner John, 185 00:07:28,570 --> 00:07:30,540 {\an1}Erin's film editor, Marcy Stanton, 186 00:07:30,570 --> 00:07:33,370 {\an1}and the guys at the video house working on post-production, 187 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:34,870 {\an1}Mike and Ali. 188 00:07:34,910 --> 00:07:37,640 {\an1}We've kept a tight lid on it for obvious reasons. 189 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,240 {\an1}And who are Mike and Ali? 190 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,880 {\an1}The sound mixers over there. 191 00:07:41,910 --> 00:07:43,580 {\an1}I worked on Fire Under The Veil. 192 00:07:43,610 --> 00:07:45,050 {\an1}Why is that police business? 193 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,850 {\an1}I guess you don't read the news. 194 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:48,950 {\an1}The filmmaker was found dead yesterday. 195 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:50,720 {\an1}What does that have to do with me? 196 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,890 {\an1}You didn't have a problem with some of the things in the movie? 197 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:55,460 {\an1}Well, what kind of problem? 198 00:07:55,490 --> 00:07:57,760 {\an1}Well, we heard there were some offensive images. 199 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,660 {\an1}We could see how that might upset you. 200 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:01,070 {\an1}Look, they pay me to mix audio, okay? 201 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:02,030 {\an1}I'm not a movie critic. 202 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:03,800 {\an1}But you had to watch that garbage. 203 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,100 {\an1}Even worse, you contributed to putting her message out there. 204 00:08:06,140 --> 00:08:08,540 {\an1}I went to college to be a sound engineer, okay? 205 00:08:08,570 --> 00:08:11,010 {\an1}I came to this country to work on films. 206 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,580 {\an1}That insult your religion? 207 00:08:12,610 --> 00:08:14,150 {\an1}Look, you have no right to question me 208 00:08:14,180 --> 00:08:15,680 {\an1}about my religious beliefs, okay? 209 00:08:15,710 --> 00:08:17,320 {\an1}That's in your Bill of Rights. 210 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:19,050 {\an1}Okay, calm down. 211 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,250 {\an1}Where were you yesterday afternoon, Mr. Mohammed? 212 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:24,460 {\an1}Why must I be the only person in this facility 213 00:08:24,490 --> 00:08:26,220 {\an1}to answer these questions? 214 00:08:26,260 --> 00:08:28,460 {\an1}Because I'm the only Muslim here? 215 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:30,160 {\an1}No, because you're one of the few people 216 00:08:30,190 --> 00:08:32,400 {\an1}that have actually seen the film. 217 00:08:32,430 --> 00:08:34,800 {\an1}We sent three copies of this movie to the film festival. 218 00:08:34,830 --> 00:08:38,040 {\an1}Maybe they put it all over the internet. 219 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,510 {\an1} (Lee) When a film is submitted for consideration, 220 00:08:42,540 --> 00:08:44,380 {\an1}there are only two people who see it-- 221 00:08:44,410 --> 00:08:45,980 {\an1} me and my assistant programmer. 222 00:08:46,010 --> 00:08:47,410 {\an1} Well, what about all these people? 223 00:08:47,450 --> 00:08:48,910 {\an1}They're volunteers. 224 00:08:48,950 --> 00:08:51,380 {\an1}They don't see the films until they play at the festival. 225 00:08:51,420 --> 00:08:52,650 {\an1}Well, what if one of them 226 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:54,050 {\an1}becomes curious about a submission? 227 00:08:54,090 --> 00:08:55,390 {\an1}Our volunteers aren't the problem. 228 00:08:55,420 --> 00:08:57,620 {\an1}It's the distributors who buy at the festival. 229 00:08:57,660 --> 00:08:59,460 {\an1}They'd like nothing more than to get a sneak peek 230 00:08:59,490 --> 00:09:01,060 {\an1}at what we're programming. 231 00:09:01,090 --> 00:09:02,560 {\an1}So we keep one copy of each film, 232 00:09:02,590 --> 00:09:04,260 {\an1}and it's kept under lock and key. 233 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:06,430 {\an1} Well, the post-production house we just came from 234 00:09:06,460 --> 00:09:09,200 {\an1}said they sent over three copies of Fire Under The Veil. 235 00:09:09,230 --> 00:09:10,870 {\an1}They did, but every master they delivered 236 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:13,200 {\an1}had so many digital hits and sound sync problems, 237 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,470 {\an1}it was un-screenable. 238 00:09:14,510 --> 00:09:16,470 {\an1}I called Erin Garrett last week to tell her 239 00:09:16,510 --> 00:09:18,880 {\an1}the people she was using over there must be incompetent. 240 00:09:18,910 --> 00:09:20,210 {\an1}Can we borrow one of these masters? 241 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,880 {\an1}Sure. 242 00:09:21,910 --> 00:09:23,480 {\an1}The Department didn't have the right equipment 243 00:09:23,510 --> 00:09:25,180 {\an1}to analyze the HD digitape that you gave me, 244 00:09:25,220 --> 00:09:27,390 {\an1}so I had to buy editing software and borrow a deck from a friend 245 00:09:27,420 --> 00:09:30,090 {\an1}he does digital duplication for a visual effects supervisor. 246 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,720 {\an1}Beck, is this explanation gonna be longer than the movie? 247 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,730 {\an1}No, I'm sorry. This is cool. 248 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,330 {\an1}Basically, the woman at the film festival was right. 249 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,630 {\an1}This thing is unwatchable. 250 00:09:41,570 --> 00:09:42,770 {\an1}(Green) How'd it happen? 251 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,470 {\an1}Uh, the video pixelation was caused by activating 252 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:45,840 {\an1}one of the filtering enhancements 253 00:09:45,870 --> 00:09:47,270 {\an1}on the Pro Tools editing suite. 254 00:09:47,310 --> 00:09:49,270 {\an1}And the audio problems are created when the 5.1 mix 255 00:09:49,310 --> 00:09:50,780 {\an1}was rendered with a customized plug-in 256 00:09:50,810 --> 00:09:52,680 {\an1}to defeat the Dolby E coding. 257 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:53,840 {\an1}Oh, I, I just think that 258 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,150 {\an1}the sound engineer screwed up the movie. 259 00:09:57,180 --> 00:09:59,950 {\an1}I told you, I don't care about her ignorant movie. 260 00:09:59,980 --> 00:10:01,290 {\an1}Really. 261 00:10:02,450 --> 00:10:05,320 {\an1}Look, she probably pixilated the master herself. 262 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,790 {\an1}That film was made by an amateur. 263 00:10:07,830 --> 00:10:11,800 {\an1}Oh, because I thought you weren't a movie critic, Ali. 264 00:10:11,830 --> 00:10:13,400 {\an1} I said that I don't make judgments 265 00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:15,170 {\an1}about the projects I work on. 266 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,330 {\an1}Even when they depict a woman pleasuring herself 267 00:10:17,370 --> 00:10:19,840 {\an1}while a holy man reads from the Koran? 268 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:23,010 {\an1}Can you give me some space? You're invading my space. 269 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:26,480 {\an1}Let's talk about where you were that morning. 270 00:10:26,510 --> 00:10:28,310 {\an1}Which you didn't answer the first time we talked to you. 271 00:10:28,350 --> 00:10:30,080 {\an1}Your boss says you came to work late. 272 00:10:30,110 --> 00:10:32,380 {\an1}I couldn't start work until the video editors 273 00:10:32,420 --> 00:10:34,490 {\an1} laid off the project I was assigned to. 274 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,890 {\an1}So I was home all morning. 275 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,120 {\an1}Alone. 276 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,290 {\an1}Yes! 277 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,620 {\an1}Scan my MetroCard if you don't believe me. 278 00:10:40,660 --> 00:10:42,760 {\an1}I--I got on the G train in Astoria 279 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:44,230 {\an1}a little before 2:00. 280 00:10:45,560 --> 00:10:47,500 {\an1}Why are you touching me?! Hey! Hey! 281 00:10:47,530 --> 00:10:49,770 {\an1}Just looking for your MetroCard. 282 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,740 {\an1}[door opens] 283 00:10:51,770 --> 00:10:53,770 {\an1}Can I see you for a second? 284 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,410 {\an1}Sit down. 285 00:11:01,450 --> 00:11:02,710 {\an1}You need to see this 286 00:11:02,750 --> 00:11:06,180 {\an1}before you make our Muslim friend any more uncomfortable. 287 00:11:06,220 --> 00:11:08,190 {\an1}The lab found wall plaster particles on Erin's sweater 288 00:11:08,220 --> 00:11:10,490 {\an1}and in that nylon strap used in the hanging. 289 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,660 {\an1}Well, there was construction going on in that building. 290 00:11:12,690 --> 00:11:14,660 {\an1}Start looking in that direction. 291 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:18,600 {\an1} I really hope I didn't cross any lines in there. 292 00:11:18,630 --> 00:11:20,660 {\an1}Oh, listen, I'm sure Mr. Mohammed 293 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,000 {\an1}is used to being a scapegoat by now. 294 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,540 {\an1}l the banging upstairs 295 00:11:32,580 --> 00:11:34,110 {\an1}she couldn't get any work done. 296 00:11:34,150 --> 00:11:35,710 {\an1}When did this start? 297 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:38,380 {\an1}Uh, a couple of weeks ago, when they started 298 00:11:38,420 --> 00:11:40,820 {\an1} working on the apartment directly above her. 299 00:11:40,850 --> 00:11:44,150 {\an1}Does this have something to do with her getting killed? 300 00:11:44,190 --> 00:11:45,520 {\an1}It's possible. 301 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:48,030 {\an1}But my sister said you were asking about Erin's movie. 302 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:50,430 {\an1}Yeah, we're looking at all the angles. 303 00:11:50,460 --> 00:11:52,000 {\an1}The only reason Erin rented that space 304 00:11:52,030 --> 00:11:54,030 {\an1}was so she could have a quiet place to write. 305 00:11:54,070 --> 00:11:55,400 {\an1}Do you know if she talked to anyone 306 00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:57,140 {\an1}on the construction crew about the noise? 307 00:11:57,170 --> 00:12:00,240 {\an1}I know she called the company that was doing the work. 308 00:12:02,810 --> 00:12:04,610 {\an1}(Easton) The work we're doing in 8-C 309 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,010 {\an1}is a total gut renovation. 310 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,110 {\an1}We're ripping out walls, flooring, fixtures. 311 00:12:08,150 --> 00:12:10,810 {\an1}There's no way to do that without making a racket. 312 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:13,920 {\an1}Any complaints from the building residences? 313 00:12:13,950 --> 00:12:15,290 {\an1}We try to do all the loud stuff when people are at work. 314 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,020 {\an1}(Cassady) Well, some people work at home. 315 00:12:17,050 --> 00:12:18,460 {\an1}That's the nature of the beast. 316 00:12:18,490 --> 00:12:20,120 {\an1}Did any of the guys on your crew 317 00:12:20,190 --> 00:12:22,060 {\an1}talk to Erin Garrett about the noise? 318 00:12:22,090 --> 00:12:23,290 {\an1}We communicate with the super. 319 00:12:23,330 --> 00:12:24,830 {\an1}He's supposed to deal with his tenants. 320 00:12:24,860 --> 00:12:26,860 {\an1}Did any of the tenants talk to you, Mr. Easton? 321 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:28,130 {\an1}Not that I remember. 322 00:12:28,170 --> 00:12:30,270 {\an1}Did we get any noise complaints on 85 Leonard? 323 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:32,100 {\an1}Nobody called here. 324 00:12:32,140 --> 00:12:33,470 {\an1}What did I tell ya? 325 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:35,440 {\an1}Is there any reason that any of your crew members 326 00:12:35,470 --> 00:12:37,380 {\an1}would have needed access to the apartment below? 327 00:12:37,410 --> 00:12:38,980 {\an1}You think one of my guys did this? 328 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:41,010 {\an1}It's a simple question. 329 00:12:41,050 --> 00:12:42,610 {\an1}Not on this job. 330 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:45,220 {\an1}If anything else comes to mind, give us a call, all right? 331 00:12:45,250 --> 00:12:46,380 {\an1}Thank you. 332 00:12:47,420 --> 00:12:49,590 {\an1}What are we doing with Ali Mohammed? 333 00:12:49,620 --> 00:12:51,390 {\an1}Well, he's got a hell of a motive. 334 00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:52,960 {\an1}(Green) There's no physical evidence. 335 00:12:52,990 --> 00:12:54,330 {\an1}Well, we'll drop the murder 336 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:55,930 {\an1}and charge him with destruction of property. 337 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,560 {\an1}What about the construction angle? 338 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,000 {\an1}Erin Garrett had issues with the noise they were making, 339 00:13:00,030 --> 00:13:01,970 {\an1}but the head of the company said she never complained. 340 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:03,530 {\an1} The husband's telling us one thing. 341 00:13:03,570 --> 00:13:05,300 {\an1}This Easton guy's telling us something else. 342 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:07,000 {\an1}So we're going over to talk to the construction crew. 343 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,810 {\an1}Good. 344 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,470 {\an1}This is the third apartment we've done in this building, 345 00:13:10,510 --> 00:13:11,910 {\an1}and I haven't heard a peep from nobody. 346 00:13:11,940 --> 00:13:13,410 {\an1}What about the guys in your crew? 347 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,250 {\an1}Ah, they would have told me if somebody complained. 348 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,350 {\an1}All right, we're gonna need the names and the addresses 349 00:13:17,380 --> 00:13:19,420 {\an1}of everybody that worked with you on Tuesday. 350 00:13:19,450 --> 00:13:20,850 {\an1}Ah, I can give you the names, 351 00:13:20,890 --> 00:13:23,220 {\an1}but the addresses you're gonna have to get from Carl. 352 00:13:23,250 --> 00:13:25,220 {\an1}All right, let me see. 353 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:27,330 {\an1} There's Mike Stanopolous and Ronnie Boatwright. That's it? 354 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:29,560 {\an1}I just saw three or four dudes go upstairs. 355 00:13:29,590 --> 00:13:30,960 {\an1}Oh, the Spanish guys? 356 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,660 {\an1}I just know them by their first names. 357 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:34,270 {\an1}But the office would have their information. 358 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:35,470 {\an1}Uh, no, I doubt it. 359 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:37,940 {\an1}These are guys we just pick up from job to job. 360 00:13:37,970 --> 00:13:39,270 {\an1}So how do you communicate with them? 361 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:40,470 {\an1}How do they get paid? 362 00:13:40,500 --> 00:13:42,870 {\an1}Look, I'm not looking for any trouble behind this. 363 00:13:42,910 --> 00:13:45,940 {\an1}Trouble's gonna start when you stop answering questions. 364 00:13:45,980 --> 00:13:49,550 {\an1}Okay, I speak some Italian, so they get the gist. 365 00:13:49,580 --> 00:13:51,820 {\an1}And we pay them cash on Friday afternoon. 366 00:13:51,850 --> 00:13:53,180 {\an1}That's it. 367 00:13:57,020 --> 00:13:58,220 {\an1}How's your Spanish? 368 00:13:58,260 --> 00:14:00,660 {\an1}It's okay, but I'm hoping somebody's bilingual. 369 00:14:00,690 --> 00:14:02,160 {\an1}Hola. 370 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:03,700 {\an1} Hello. Hello. 371 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:11,070 {\an1}We must have spooked 'em when we came in downstairs. 372 00:14:11,100 --> 00:14:13,340 {\an1}Maybe they left through the service entrance. 373 00:14:13,370 --> 00:14:15,110 {\an1}Should we be calling Immigration or something? 374 00:14:15,140 --> 00:14:16,340 {\an1}And say what? 375 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:19,040 {\an1}You know what, maybe somebody else on Erin's floor 376 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,350 {\an1}had problems with the noise. 377 00:14:21,380 --> 00:14:23,920 {\an1}Uh, the racket's mostly on Erin's side of the hall. 378 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:25,120 {\an1}If it gets too loud, 379 00:14:25,150 --> 00:14:26,450 {\an1}I just go to the med school library to study. 380 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:27,990 {\an1} Were you here on Tuesday morning? 381 00:14:28,020 --> 00:14:29,790 {\an1}Until about 10:00. 382 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:31,890 {\an1}And was the construction work particularly loud that day? 383 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,530 {\an1}Not really, but that was the day they cut off the water. 384 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,330 {\an1}What do you mean? 385 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,500 {\an1}Erin knocked on my door to ask if it was just her apartment. 386 00:14:38,530 --> 00:14:40,330 {\an1}She and I decided to go downstairs, 387 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:41,900 {\an1}find out what was going on. 388 00:14:41,930 --> 00:14:43,230 {\an1}When we got to the basement, 389 00:14:43,270 --> 00:14:45,340 {\an1}one of the workers was doing something to the plumbing. 390 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:47,270 {\an1}We asked him how long the water would be off. 391 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:49,410 {\an1}Was it a cordial conversation? 392 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,040 {\an1}Sure. He was just a kid. 393 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,310 {\an1}He said he'd check with his boss and then knock on Erin's door 394 00:14:53,340 --> 00:14:55,010 {\an1}to let her know when the water was coming back. 395 00:14:55,050 --> 00:14:56,550 {\an1}What'd this kid look like? 396 00:14:56,580 --> 00:14:59,520 {\an1}Um, 18, 19, thick, wavy hair, 397 00:14:59,550 --> 00:15:02,390 {\an1}about my height, Latino. 398 00:15:02,420 --> 00:15:04,590 {\an1}(Cassady) You think these guys are coming back? 399 00:15:04,620 --> 00:15:07,690 {\an1}They don't come to work, they don't get paid. 400 00:15:07,730 --> 00:15:10,760 {\an1}Duck out the back every time you see a cop walk by-- 401 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,260 {\an1}what a way to live. 402 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:14,370 {\an1}Some people have no choice. 403 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,800 {\an1}I guess. 404 00:15:15,830 --> 00:15:18,870 {\an1}I just hope we're not making the same mistake twice. 405 00:15:20,670 --> 00:15:22,640 {\an1}Here we go. 406 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,110 {\an1}Eschucheme. ¿Habla Inglés? 407 00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:29,880 {\an1} I-I speak English. Okay. 408 00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:31,520 {\an1}We're looking for a dude that was working with you on Tuesday. 409 00:15:31,550 --> 00:15:32,550 {\an1}Who? 410 00:15:32,580 --> 00:15:33,620 {\an1}He's about this tall, 411 00:15:33,650 --> 00:15:34,920 {\an1}19, 20, dark, wavy hair. 412 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:37,090 {\an1}He was working in the basement on the plumbing. 413 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,990 {\an1}Oh, we don't know him. He only came one day. 414 00:15:42,730 --> 00:15:44,490 {\an1}This your whole crew? 415 00:15:44,530 --> 00:15:46,000 {\an1}Yeah. 416 00:15:46,030 --> 00:15:47,970 {\an1}Whose bag is that? 417 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,400 {\an1} I'll take the whole crew to Federal Plaza, 418 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,070 {\an1}you don't tell me whose bag that is. 419 00:15:55,110 --> 00:15:56,810 {\an1}That's Julio's bag. 420 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,110 {\an1}Is Julio the one 421 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:00,410 {\an1}that was working in the basement on Tuesday? 422 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,410 {\an1}Yes. 423 00:16:01,450 --> 00:16:04,980 {\an1}Ed. Same as in the hanging. 424 00:16:05,020 --> 00:16:07,150 {\an1}Do you know where Julio is? 425 00:16:09,220 --> 00:16:10,790 {\an1}(man) God is alive in you! 426 00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:13,120 {\an1}Raise your hands to accept Jesus Christ. 427 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,500 {\an1}Raise your hands to receive the holy spirit. 428 00:16:17,530 --> 00:16:19,400 {\an1}All who believe, for all who believe, 429 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:22,030 {\an1}all things are possible. 430 00:16:22,070 --> 00:16:25,640 {\an1}Glorify, sister. Christ saves. 431 00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:27,540 {\an1}Christ saves, brothers. 432 00:16:27,570 --> 00:16:31,110 {\an1}Let him in. Let him into your heart. 433 00:16:31,140 --> 00:16:33,340 {\an1}Christ saves! 434 00:16:38,820 --> 00:16:41,150 {\an1}Against the wall, now. 435 00:16:46,820 --> 00:16:48,830 {\an1}Why did you run, Julio? (Cassady) Twice. 436 00:16:48,860 --> 00:16:50,390 {\an1} You know. No, I don't know. 437 00:16:50,430 --> 00:16:52,060 {\an1}Tell us. Sit down. 438 00:16:52,100 --> 00:16:53,230 {\an1}I have no papers. 439 00:16:53,260 --> 00:16:55,630 {\an1}We work for the city, not Immigration. 440 00:16:55,670 --> 00:16:57,200 {\an1}Police is police. 441 00:16:57,230 --> 00:16:59,440 {\an1}Do you have any family here? 442 00:16:59,470 --> 00:17:01,670 {\an1}No. In Colombia. 443 00:17:01,710 --> 00:17:02,970 {\an1}Right, and you're working hard 444 00:17:03,010 --> 00:17:04,840 {\an1}so you can send money back to your family? 445 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,810 {\an1}Yes, to my mother. 446 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,480 {\an1}Okay, that woman on the seventh floor, she's a mother. 447 00:17:09,510 --> 00:17:11,320 {\an1}What woman? 448 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:13,050 {\an1}The one who complained about the water. 449 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,290 {\an1}The one whose apartment you went to that morning. 450 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:17,760 {\an1}Look, here's the problem. 451 00:17:17,790 --> 00:17:19,790 {\an1}Her family wants to give her a Christian burial, 452 00:17:19,820 --> 00:17:20,990 {\an1}but they can't. 453 00:17:21,030 --> 00:17:22,160 {\an1}Why? 454 00:17:22,190 --> 00:17:24,160 {\an1}Because she was hanged. 455 00:17:24,190 --> 00:17:26,060 {\an1}And they believe it was a suicide. 456 00:17:26,100 --> 00:17:27,200 {\an1}That's a sin. 457 00:17:27,230 --> 00:17:30,740 {\an1}Now, we think you hung her. 458 00:17:30,770 --> 00:17:32,670 {\an1} No. We have the strap she was hanged with. 459 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:36,540 {\an1}It was the same as the one we found in your van. 460 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:38,280 {\an1}I didn't do this to her. 461 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:39,840 {\an1}Julio... 462 00:17:41,950 --> 00:17:44,550 {\an1}We can't help you if you lie. 463 00:17:44,580 --> 00:17:46,580 {\an1}Now, that woman that was with her in the basement, 464 00:17:46,620 --> 00:17:49,350 {\an1}she said she saw you coming out of that apartment. 465 00:17:49,390 --> 00:17:53,260 {\an1}Yes, I was in her apartment, but I didn't hang this lady. 466 00:17:53,290 --> 00:17:56,790 {\an1}Okay, good. Just tell us what happened. 467 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,830 {\an1}I went to tell her that there would be no more water soon. 468 00:18:02,870 --> 00:18:06,440 {\an1}She gets very angry, and she starts saying things to me. 469 00:18:06,470 --> 00:18:08,210 {\an1}What kind of things? 470 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,070 {\an1}She said that if she didn't get water, 471 00:18:10,110 --> 00:18:11,540 {\an1}she was to call the police. 472 00:18:11,580 --> 00:18:13,110 {\an1}I ask her, please, don't. 473 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:15,010 {\an1}Did you ever touch her? 474 00:18:15,050 --> 00:18:18,350 {\an1}To try to stop her to use the telephone. 475 00:18:18,380 --> 00:18:20,280 {\an1}She fight back against me. 476 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,890 {\an1}And she fell down and hit her head. 477 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,260 {\an1}I tried to help her, but she was not moving. 478 00:18:27,290 --> 00:18:28,990 {\an1}You thought she was dead. 479 00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:31,330 {\an1}Yes. 480 00:18:31,360 --> 00:18:32,930 {\an1}Is that when you got the idea 481 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,530 {\an1}to string her up with that nylon strap 482 00:18:34,570 --> 00:18:36,870 {\an1}and put that chair next to her? 483 00:18:37,870 --> 00:18:40,170 {\an1}No, I just left her there. 484 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,710 {\an1}Julio, 485 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:43,440 {\an1}you have to tell us everything 486 00:18:43,470 --> 00:18:45,610 {\an1}so that her family can have some peace. 487 00:18:47,210 --> 00:18:48,380 {\an1}No, please. 488 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,180 {\an1}Don't say that. 489 00:18:52,220 --> 00:18:55,090 {\an1}Don't make me say that. 490 00:19:04,090 --> 00:19:05,500 {\an1}Docket number 07115, 491 00:19:05,530 --> 00:19:07,060 {\an1}People vs. Julio Rodriguez. 492 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,170 {\an1}Murder in the second degree. 493 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,500 {\an1}Burglary in the second degree. 494 00:19:10,530 --> 00:19:11,500 {\an1}Plea, Ms. Shannon? 495 00:19:11,540 --> 00:19:12,900 {\an1}Not guilty. 496 00:19:12,940 --> 00:19:14,240 {\an1}(Judge Jones) People. 497 00:19:14,270 --> 00:19:15,410 {\an1}The defendant assaulted the victim 498 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,910 {\an1}and staged it as a suicide. 499 00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:18,380 {\an1}This is a highly deceptive individual 500 00:19:18,410 --> 00:19:20,610 {\an1} who resides here illegally. 501 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,780 {\an1}Let's cut to the chase. He couldn't make $500. 502 00:19:22,810 --> 00:19:25,120 {\an1} (Judge Jones) And I see there's an Immigration hold 503 00:19:25,150 --> 00:19:26,380 {\an1}on Mr. Rodriguez. 504 00:19:26,420 --> 00:19:27,550 {\an1}He's remanded. 505 00:19:27,580 --> 00:19:29,250 {\an1}I'd like to request a suicide watch. 506 00:19:29,290 --> 00:19:30,920 {\an1} Is that a joke, Miss Shannon? 507 00:19:30,950 --> 00:19:32,990 {\an1}My client in quite inconsolable. 508 00:19:33,020 --> 00:19:35,290 {\an1}I don't want to take any chances. 509 00:19:35,330 --> 00:19:36,260 {\an1}So ordered. 510 00:19:36,290 --> 00:19:37,560 {\an1}[bangs gavel] 511 00:19:39,730 --> 00:19:41,900 {\an1}(McCoy) Murder two, 20 to life. 512 00:19:41,930 --> 00:19:43,830 {\an1} Is that the best you can do? 513 00:19:43,870 --> 00:19:45,370 {\an1}Not a day lower. 514 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:46,770 {\an1}I am sorry about this. 515 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,110 {\an1}I just want to go back to Colombia. 516 00:19:49,140 --> 00:19:50,910 {\an1}And you will, after you serve 20 years 517 00:19:50,940 --> 00:19:52,840 {\an1}in the State Correctional Facility. 518 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,280 {\an1}Doesn't his remorse count for something? 519 00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:57,510 {\an1}Yes, we're not asking for consec time. 520 00:19:57,550 --> 00:19:59,450 {\an1} It's still too much time, Mr. McCoy. 521 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,190 {\an1}You're forcing me to take this to trial. 522 00:20:01,220 --> 00:20:03,090 {\an1} He'll do twice as much time. 523 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,290 {\an1}You have no defense. 524 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,460 {\an1}It just so happens that I've come up with one. 525 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:12,160 {\an1}And it ain't half-bad. 526 00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:16,070 {\an1} They're asserting duress as an affirmative defense. 527 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:17,900 {\an1}The motion claims 528 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:19,670 {\an1}that Julio is the sole support to his mother 529 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:21,810 {\an1}and five younger siblings in Colombia. 530 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,440 {\an1}How is that duress? 531 00:20:23,470 --> 00:20:25,580 {\an1}Well, the money that he sends them from his job 532 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:26,810 {\an1}keeps them alive. 533 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,780 {\an1}Had Erin Garrett's call to the police 534 00:20:28,810 --> 00:20:31,080 {\an1}led to his deportation, they would starve. 535 00:20:31,120 --> 00:20:33,480 {\an1}The statute that lays out the duress defense 536 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,090 {\an1}requires coercion by means of unlawful force, 537 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,220 {\an1}like holding a gun to somebody's head. 538 00:20:38,260 --> 00:20:40,290 {\an1}They're grasping at straws. 539 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:41,730 {\an1}I'm not so sure. 540 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,000 {\an1}You think there's a judge on the bench who'd allow this in? 541 00:20:45,030 --> 00:20:47,460 {\an1} Well, most people who live and work here illegally 542 00:20:47,500 --> 00:20:49,330 {\an1}do it out of desperation. 543 00:20:49,370 --> 00:20:51,130 {\an1}Their wages are a matter of survival 544 00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:53,300 {\an1}for their impoverished families back home. 545 00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:54,770 {\an1}And my heart goes out to them. 546 00:20:54,810 --> 00:20:56,370 {\an1}But it doesn't come close to establishing 547 00:20:56,410 --> 00:20:57,540 {\an1}an affirmative defense. 548 00:20:57,570 --> 00:20:59,580 {\an1}(Rubirosa) All I'm saying 549 00:20:59,610 --> 00:21:02,080 {\an1}is that I understand the pressure this kid was under. 550 00:21:02,110 --> 00:21:03,680 {\an1}My father supported us for ten years 551 00:21:03,710 --> 00:21:05,650 {\an1}by changing bedpans at a nursing home 552 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,950 {\an1}because his Spanish medical license 553 00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:08,320 {\an1}didn't get reciprocity here. 554 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:10,020 {\an1}Rodriguez knowingly violated the law 555 00:21:10,050 --> 00:21:12,190 {\an1}by illegally entering to start with. 556 00:21:12,220 --> 00:21:14,760 {\an1}And you wouldn't do the same for your starving family? 557 00:21:14,790 --> 00:21:15,830 {\an1}Just about everybody agrees 558 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:17,890 {\an1}that our immigration policy is flawed, 559 00:21:17,930 --> 00:21:19,560 {\an1}but I'm not going to let this defendant 560 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,770 {\an1}use a cockamamie defense to climb on a soapbox. 561 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,900 {\an1}We'll move to preclude. 562 00:21:30,970 --> 00:21:32,840 {\an1} (Julio) When I was 14, 563 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,210 {\an1}my father was killed by the cocaineros in our village. 564 00:21:36,250 --> 00:21:39,420 {\an1}Me and one of my brothers 565 00:21:39,450 --> 00:21:43,050 {\an1}had to leave our school to work in the coca fields. 566 00:21:43,090 --> 00:21:46,390 {\an1}Did you make enough money to support your family? 567 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:48,390 {\an1}Yes. 568 00:21:48,430 --> 00:21:51,230 {\an1}But then the government came with airplanes 569 00:21:51,260 --> 00:21:53,460 {\an1}and put a spray on the plants. 570 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:57,300 {\an1}The plants died, and there was no more work. 571 00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:58,900 {\an1}So what did you do? 572 00:21:58,940 --> 00:22:01,610 {\an1}I was afraid to go back home. 573 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,640 {\an1}But a man told me that I could come to New York. 574 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,450 {\an1}That there were many jobs there, if I could work hard. 575 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,520 {\an1}Let me call your attention to February 7th. 576 00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:14,680 {\an1}Did you have a confrontation with Erin Garrett 577 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,490 {\an1}in a building you worked in? 578 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,990 {\an1}I didn't want to fight with this lady. 579 00:22:20,020 --> 00:22:22,560 {\an1}But she was very angry. 580 00:22:22,590 --> 00:22:26,730 {\an1}She said I cannot turn off her water. 581 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,370 {\an1}She say she go to call the police. 582 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,000 {\an1}How did you feel when she said that? 583 00:22:36,370 --> 00:22:39,640 {\an1}I thought about my brothers and sisters 584 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,910 {\an1}and my mother 585 00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:45,420 {\an1}and what would happen to them if we had no money. 586 00:22:45,450 --> 00:22:48,990 {\an1}And, you know, the lady go to pick up the telephone. 587 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:51,960 {\an1}So I must stop her. 588 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,690 {\an1}Thank you. 589 00:22:58,930 --> 00:23:00,630 {\an1}And if you did stop her, 590 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:03,770 {\an1}what made you think she'd change her mind? 591 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,370 {\an1}I don't know. 592 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,740 {\an1}Maybe then I could talk to her. 593 00:23:07,770 --> 00:23:10,310 {\an1}So how did you stop her? 594 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:13,080 {\an1}I-- 595 00:23:13,110 --> 00:23:14,780 {\an1}I grabbed her. 596 00:23:14,810 --> 00:23:17,750 {\an1}Then she was fighting back against me. 597 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:19,650 {\an1}I tried to hold her, 598 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,190 {\an1}and she went back and hit her head. 599 00:23:22,220 --> 00:23:23,720 {\an1}Then what, Mr. Rodriquez? 600 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:26,890 {\an1}I went to see if she was still alive. 601 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,360 {\an1}But she was not moving. 602 00:23:29,390 --> 00:23:31,860 {\an1}That's when you got the idea to go down to your truck 603 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,800 {\an1}and get the nylon strap? 604 00:23:33,830 --> 00:23:36,370 {\an1}No, sir, I just go. 605 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,240 {\an1}So you still deny you hanged Erin Garrett 606 00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:44,210 {\an1}from a sprinkler pipe and staged it as a suicide. 607 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,480 {\an1}I did not do this. 608 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:51,420 {\an1}Did you ever try to help this woman? 609 00:23:55,220 --> 00:23:56,520 {\an1}No. 610 00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:58,990 {\an1}Because there was a man on the steps. 611 00:23:59,020 --> 00:24:01,090 {\an1}A man? Where? 612 00:24:02,630 --> 00:24:05,500 {\an1}He was going on floor seven. 613 00:24:06,730 --> 00:24:10,230 {\an1}Are you saying you saw a man on Erin Garrett's floor? 614 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:17,270 {\an1}Yes, but I thought maybe he was from the police. 615 00:24:17,310 --> 00:24:19,140 {\an1}So I go back to my work. 616 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:21,680 {\an1} And what did this man look like? 617 00:24:21,710 --> 00:24:24,080 {\an1}I could only see his back. 618 00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:26,480 {\an1}And why didn't you tell the detectives about this 619 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,020 {\an1}when they arrested you? 620 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:31,090 {\an1}Because I was scared... 621 00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:35,860 {\an1}to say that the police were here. 622 00:24:35,890 --> 00:24:38,830 {\an1}And I did not tell them what I did. 623 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:40,330 {\an1}(McCoy) I don't like surprises, 624 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:41,930 {\an1}Lieutenant. 625 00:24:41,970 --> 00:24:44,330 {\an1}And I have better things to do than to hold your hand 626 00:24:44,370 --> 00:24:46,070 {\an1} through a defendant's hearing testimony. 627 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:48,240 {\an1}Why didn't you get this out of Rodriguez 628 00:24:48,270 --> 00:24:49,770 {\an1}during his interrogation? 629 00:24:49,810 --> 00:24:51,780 {\an1}Did you ever consider he's lying 630 00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:53,640 {\an1}to wiggle out of the murder charge? 631 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,010 {\an1} He's denied the hanging from the beginning. 632 00:24:56,050 --> 00:24:57,750 {\an1}Look, it's one thing to say you shoved someone. 633 00:24:57,780 --> 00:24:59,620 {\an1}It's a big leap to say you strung 'em up. 634 00:24:59,650 --> 00:25:03,350 {\an1}Or your people didn't push Rodriguez hard enough. 635 00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:05,460 {\an1}So what, we should have broken out the waterboard? 636 00:25:05,490 --> 00:25:07,520 {\an1}After all, Rodriguez is here illegally. 637 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,430 {\an1}It was a sloppy interrogation! 638 00:25:09,460 --> 00:25:12,560 {\an1}My people worked Rodriguez appropriately! 639 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,770 {\an1}If you don't like it, call the Chief of Ds. 640 00:25:17,530 --> 00:25:19,700 {\an1}Anything else? 641 00:25:20,570 --> 00:25:23,170 {\an1}CSU never worked up the stairwell 642 00:25:23,210 --> 00:25:25,040 {\an1}in Erin Garrett's building. 643 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880 {\an1}They need to now. 644 00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:28,310 {\an1}And you should talk to Julio's boss. 645 00:25:28,350 --> 00:25:31,180 {\an1} If everything's riding on this kid's credibility, 646 00:25:31,210 --> 00:25:34,520 {\an1}I'd like to know exactly who we're dealing with. 647 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720 {\an1}(Easton) Julio has worked for me for about two years, on and off. 648 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,660 {\an1}Only positive thing I can say about him 649 00:25:42,690 --> 00:25:45,230 {\an1}is that he shows up for work when he's supposed to. 650 00:25:45,260 --> 00:25:46,600 {\an1}That's not much of a recommendation. 651 00:25:46,630 --> 00:25:48,270 {\an1}Why on and off, Mr. Easton? 652 00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:50,000 {\an1}Look, I don't want to prejudice the kid, 653 00:25:50,030 --> 00:25:52,870 {\an1}but tools kept going missing wherever Julio was working. 654 00:25:52,900 --> 00:25:55,740 {\an1}If you suspected him of stealing, why keep him on? 655 00:25:55,770 --> 00:25:57,070 {\an1}Because I couldn't prove it was him. 656 00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:59,580 {\an1}Plus, he's got two cousins that have been withe r years. 657 00:25:59,610 --> 00:26:00,940 {\an1}They begged me to keep him on. 658 00:26:00,980 --> 00:26:02,910 {\an1}They told me they were gonna have a talk with him, 659 00:26:02,950 --> 00:26:05,080 {\an1}and if anything else disappeared, they'd pay me back. 660 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,520 {\an1}Did Julio ever have a confrontation 661 00:26:06,550 --> 00:26:08,190 {\an1}with anyone at work before? 662 00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:10,850 {\an1}Not that I know of. But it wouldn't surprise me. 663 00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:13,260 {\an1}I always thought that kid had a short fuse. 664 00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:14,630 {\an1}Why? 665 00:26:14,660 --> 00:26:17,260 {\an1}It was nothing specific, it was just the way he carries himself. 666 00:26:17,290 --> 00:26:19,800 {\an1}A lot of these Spanish kids are prone to that kind of thing. 667 00:26:21,260 --> 00:26:22,470 {\an1}I know it's a stereotype, 668 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:25,640 {\an1}but, hey, stereotypes come from somewhere, right? 669 00:26:25,670 --> 00:26:27,200 {\an1}All right. 670 00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:32,480 {\an1}Well, according to Easton, Julio is a hot-blooded Latino 671 00:26:32,510 --> 00:26:34,010 {\an1}with a pension for pilfering. 672 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,380 {\an1}Racism aside, he does admit going after Erin Garrett. 673 00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:38,650 {\an1}Even so, 674 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,980 {\an1}it doesn't comport with what I saw in the courtroom. 675 00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:42,550 {\an1}Looks can be deceiving. 676 00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:44,960 {\an1}The lieutenant wanted me to run these over to you. 677 00:26:44,990 --> 00:26:46,820 {\an1}There were fingerprint hits in Erin's stairwell 678 00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:48,060 {\an1}that can't be excluded. 679 00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:50,060 {\an1}Fingerprints that could have been made yesterday 680 00:26:50,090 --> 00:26:51,130 {\an1}or a year ago. 681 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,760 {\an1}That's true, but this is someone 682 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,100 {\an1}who was a person of interest before we honed in on Rodriguez. 683 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:57,270 {\an1}Ali Mohammed. He's a sound engineer. 684 00:26:57,300 --> 00:26:59,340 {\an1}He tried to sabotage Erin's movie. 685 00:26:59,370 --> 00:27:01,400 {\an1}He denied he was ever in her building. 686 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,040 {\an1}Well, now we know that was a lie. 687 00:27:03,070 --> 00:27:05,540 {\an1}Now he has motive and opportunity. 688 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,780 {\an1}Is it possible we're prosecuting the wrong guy? 689 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,680 {\an1}Get up. What is it now? 690 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,020 {\an1} Look, I told them I'll pay for this woman's two digitapes. 691 00:27:17,050 --> 00:27:18,690 {\an1}You're gonna pay for more than that. 692 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,760 {\an1}You're under arrest for the murder of Erin Garrett. 693 00:27:20,790 --> 00:27:21,960 {\an1}You have the right to remain silent. 694 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:22,590 {\an1}If you forgo that right, anything you say 695 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:24,800 {\an1}can against you in a court of law. 696 00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:26,200 {\an1}You have the right to an attorney... 697 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,130 {\an1}for her film. 698 00:27:30,170 --> 00:27:32,070 {\an1} I went through the site's email. 699 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,570 {\an1}This movie defames the Prophet 700 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:38,170 {\an1}and insults Muslims all over the world. 701 00:27:38,210 --> 00:27:40,580 {\an1}It came from Ali Mohammed's work station. 702 00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:42,880 {\an1}He also had several hits on fundamentalist websites. 703 00:27:42,910 --> 00:27:46,380 {\an1}But Julio Rodriguez admits assaulting the victim. 704 00:27:46,420 --> 00:27:47,750 {\an1}But not to the murder. 705 00:27:47,780 --> 00:27:49,450 {\an1}I think Ali came up the stairwell, 706 00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:51,090 {\an1}found her lying on the ground, 707 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:53,390 {\an1}took some lashing left behind by the construction crew. 708 00:27:53,420 --> 00:27:55,560 {\an1}Because he was offended by the movie? 709 00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:57,960 {\an1}Salman Rushdie was targeted by fundamentalists 710 00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:59,600 {\an1}because he wrote a novel. 711 00:27:59,630 --> 00:28:01,330 {\an1}Theo Van Gogh was murdered by a fanatic 712 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,100 {\an1}because he made a blasphemous film. 713 00:28:04,130 --> 00:28:06,870 {\an1}This isn't about some lingering empathy for Rodriguez? 714 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:10,970 {\an1}Are you suggesting my background is affecting my judgment? 715 00:28:11,010 --> 00:28:12,180 {\an1}I'm suggesting that we look at the facts, 716 00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:14,080 {\an1}not hunches or headlines. 717 00:28:14,110 --> 00:28:17,580 {\an1}The construction foreman saw Ali in Erin's building that morning. 718 00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:19,220 {\an1}He picked his photo out of an array. 719 00:28:19,250 --> 00:28:20,450 {\an1}Well, that's something. 720 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,490 {\an1}He strung her up for retribution. 721 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,850 {\an1}Or to try and kill her movie. 722 00:28:23,890 --> 00:28:26,590 {\an1}We've got viable cases against both of them. 723 00:28:26,620 --> 00:28:28,560 {\an1}Which, I might point out, are mutually excusive situations. 724 00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:30,730 {\an1}Both these men can't be guilty. 725 00:28:33,060 --> 00:28:35,530 {\an1}Motions to dismiss. 726 00:28:35,570 --> 00:28:37,530 {\an1}One for each defendant. 727 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,140 {\an1}(Shannon) The People initially charged my client with this murder. 728 00:28:45,180 --> 00:28:47,940 {\an1}After realizing their case was falling apart, 729 00:28:47,980 --> 00:28:49,750 {\an1}they arrested somebody else. 730 00:28:49,780 --> 00:28:52,520 {\an1}It's time to dismiss this case against Mr. Rodriguez. 731 00:28:52,550 --> 00:28:55,220 {\an1}Judge, it's my client's case that should be dismissed. 732 00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:56,690 {\an1}If Mr. McCoy intends to prove 733 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,190 {\an1}that Rodriguez was the one who hanged the victim, 734 00:28:59,220 --> 00:29:01,190 {\an1}what is Ali Mohammed doing here? 735 00:29:01,220 --> 00:29:04,260 {\an1}And what was he doing in her building that day, Mr. Greer? 736 00:29:04,290 --> 00:29:05,730 {\an1}He went to persuade Ms. Garrett 737 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,600 {\an1} to withdraw her movie from the festival. 738 00:29:07,630 --> 00:29:10,030 {\an1}When he got to her door, he couldn't go through with it, 739 00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:11,500 {\an1}so he left. 740 00:29:11,530 --> 00:29:13,540 {\an1}And if that was true, why didn't he just tell the police that? 741 00:29:13,570 --> 00:29:16,040 {\an1}Are you alleging these men acted in concert, Mr. McCoy? 742 00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:17,570 {\an1}We have no proof of that. 743 00:29:17,610 --> 00:29:20,010 {\an1}Then how do you justify both of these prosecutions? 744 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,950 {\an1}There's no legal authority I'm aware of 745 00:29:21,980 --> 00:29:24,650 {\an1} that says I can't pursue inconsistent theories. 746 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,220 {\an1}Then I'm the authority. 747 00:29:26,250 --> 00:29:28,820 {\an1}I'm giving you 48 hours to convene a grand jury. 748 00:29:28,850 --> 00:29:31,320 {\an1}It's time to pick a horse. 749 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,460 {\an1}You should be talking to Rodriguez. 750 00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:38,730 {\an1} We believe his story, not Mr. Mohammed's. 751 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,500 {\an1}But I'm here with a gift. 752 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:42,130 {\an1}Man one, nine years. 753 00:29:42,170 --> 00:29:44,800 {\an1}(Greer) My client didn't kill anyone. 754 00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:46,170 {\an1}Then we'll try the case. 755 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,400 {\an1}That was easy. 756 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:49,470 {\an1}No. 757 00:29:49,510 --> 00:29:51,940 {\an1}No trial. 758 00:29:52,910 --> 00:29:54,810 {\an1}So what you were telling me about this, Ali, 759 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,380 {\an1}that wasn't true? 760 00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:58,750 {\an1}It was true. I hated this woman. 761 00:29:58,780 --> 00:30:00,180 {\an1}But I didn't hang her. 762 00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:02,950 {\an1}Then why plead guilty, Mr. Mohammed? 763 00:30:04,020 --> 00:30:06,690 {\an1}What chance do I have in an American court? 764 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,930 {\an1}This woman made a movie which was blasphemy to my faith, 765 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,700 {\an1}and your jury will convict me because of my religious beliefs. 766 00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:14,660 {\an1} I'm not gonna let that happen to you. 767 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,100 {\an1}Maybe they'll say I'm a terrorist 768 00:30:16,130 --> 00:30:17,330 {\an1}and send me to Guantánamo. 769 00:30:17,370 --> 00:30:19,400 {\an1}No. 770 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,010 {\an1}Let me stay in prison for nine years, 771 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,870 {\an1}and then I will go home. 772 00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:25,940 {\an1}(Greer) You sure you wanna do this? 773 00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:29,050 {\an1}Yes. 774 00:30:30,710 --> 00:30:31,750 {\an1}Jack? 775 00:30:31,780 --> 00:30:34,050 {\an1}I can't accept his plea. 776 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,550 {\an1}He denies his guilt. 777 00:30:35,590 --> 00:30:37,850 {\an1}I don't understand this country. 778 00:30:43,490 --> 00:30:47,160 {\an1}Did we just go from two defendants to zero? 779 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,430 {\an1}As far as I'm concerned, 780 00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:51,940 {\an1}that was an interesting piece of political theater. 781 00:30:51,970 --> 00:30:54,600 {\an1} Well, unless Ali is right about American juries, 782 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,970 {\an1}we need to beef up our case against him. 783 00:31:01,210 --> 00:31:03,280 {\an1} (Mark) Carl had to run over to Brooklyn. 784 00:31:03,310 --> 00:31:04,710 {\an1}Mm, that's too bad. 785 00:31:04,750 --> 00:31:06,720 {\an1}I'm Mark, his office manager. Something I can help you with? 786 00:31:06,750 --> 00:31:09,650 {\an1}Yeah, uh, I had some questions about something we found 787 00:31:09,690 --> 00:31:11,620 {\an1}at the crime scene. 788 00:31:11,650 --> 00:31:13,590 {\an1}It's nylon lashing, like this. 789 00:31:13,620 --> 00:31:15,560 {\an1}What's it used for? 790 00:31:15,590 --> 00:31:17,360 {\an1}All-purpose rigging. 791 00:31:17,390 --> 00:31:19,260 {\an1}We have to secure some lumber, sheetrock, 792 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,100 {\an1}haul a couple of ladders up some stairs. 793 00:31:21,130 --> 00:31:23,400 {\an1}So you just would keep it in your truck, right? 794 00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:26,440 {\an1}Uh, it'd be lying around all over the job. 795 00:31:26,470 --> 00:31:28,270 {\an1}Thank you. 796 00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:29,340 {\an1}Oh, I'm sorry. 797 00:31:29,370 --> 00:31:31,510 {\an1}Do you know when Mr. Easton will be back in? 798 00:31:31,540 --> 00:31:32,510 {\an1}Tough to say. 799 00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:34,010 {\an1}He's not really in the office too much. 800 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,210 {\an1}He goes from job to job, 801 00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:37,550 {\an1}always trying to keep an eye on everything. 802 00:31:37,580 --> 00:31:41,180 {\an1}Was he at the NoHo worksite the day the woman was hanged? 803 00:31:42,650 --> 00:31:44,390 {\an1}I can find out. 804 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:50,960 {\an1}Yeah. 805 00:31:50,990 --> 00:31:53,400 {\an1}Looks like he was there most of the morning. 806 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,730 {\an1}Thank you. 807 00:31:57,270 --> 00:31:58,770 {\an1}(Rubirosa) Jack. 808 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,600 {\an1}I spoke with the office manager 809 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,640 {\an1}and the foreman who were at 85 Leonard, 810 00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:03,940 {\an1}and I think we can prove 811 00:32:03,970 --> 00:32:05,540 {\an1}that Ali had access to nylon lashing 812 00:32:05,580 --> 00:32:08,750 {\an1}left in the building's stairwell by Easton's crew. 813 00:32:10,110 --> 00:32:12,450 {\an1}Something bothering you? 814 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,020 {\an1}It's just at any given time, 815 00:32:14,050 --> 00:32:15,790 {\an1}Easton has five or six crews on jobs 816 00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:17,490 {\an1} working all over the city. So? 817 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,290 {\an1} Well, he always puts a couple union guys on every job 818 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:21,590 {\an1}to make him look good, 819 00:32:21,620 --> 00:32:23,490 {\an1}but most of his workers are illegals. 820 00:32:23,530 --> 00:32:24,990 {\an1}I ran some of the numbers, 821 00:32:25,030 --> 00:32:27,300 {\an1} and his practice of using undocumented labor 822 00:32:27,330 --> 00:32:30,070 {\an1}nets him at least a million dollars a year. 823 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,600 {\an1}He'd have a lot to lose if somebody were to complain. 824 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,210 {\an1}We're way past the exploited immigrant angle, Connie. 825 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,710 {\an1}Yeah, but Easton was at the construction site 826 00:32:37,740 --> 00:32:39,180 {\an1}on the morning of the murder. 827 00:32:39,210 --> 00:32:42,910 {\an1}Are you saying Easton hanged Erin Garrett? 828 00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:45,320 {\an1}I'm saying that I used to think this was about 829 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:47,220 {\an1}an immigrant chasing the dollar, 830 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:49,990 {\an1}but maybe it's just good old-fashioned American greed. 831 00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:53,760 {\an1}Maybe Julio Rodriguez knows more than he's telling. 832 00:32:58,530 --> 00:33:01,100 {\an1}Connie said my client was off the hook on the murder charge. 833 00:33:01,130 --> 00:33:02,830 {\an1}That can change. 834 00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:04,970 {\an1}Why did you never tell anyone 835 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,870 {\an1}that Carl Easton was at the crime scene? 836 00:33:07,900 --> 00:33:10,440 {\an1}You were honest about everything else. 837 00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:11,840 {\an1}Why not that? 838 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,310 {\an1}I didn't see Mr. Easton there. 839 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:16,280 {\an1}I don't believe you. 840 00:33:16,310 --> 00:33:19,250 {\an1}I'm reinstating the murder charge. 841 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,450 {\an1} (Shannon) What do you think this is, a game show 842 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,850 {\an1}where you can change your mind every two minutes? 843 00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:25,660 {\an1}Your client is the one who's running a game here. 844 00:33:25,690 --> 00:33:29,030 {\an1}I can't say anything against Mr. Easton. 845 00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:31,460 {\an1}I wouldn't worry about your job, Mr. Rodriguez. 846 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:34,830 {\an1}You'll never work there again. I promise you. 847 00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:37,930 {\an1}Or is this about your two cousins who work for Easton? 848 00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:42,970 {\an1} Is that why you're protecting him? 849 00:33:43,010 --> 00:33:44,810 {\an1}No. 850 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,610 {\an1} You can put the charge on me. It's okay. 851 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,010 {\an1}It's not okay with me. 852 00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:50,580 {\an1}But this is all my fault. 853 00:33:50,610 --> 00:33:53,120 {\an1} I need some time to talk to my client. 854 00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,120 {\an1}This meeting is over. 855 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:58,590 {\an1}Tell me you are not serious 856 00:33:58,620 --> 00:34:00,860 {\an1}about reinstating against Rodriguez. 857 00:34:00,890 --> 00:34:01,990 {\an1}He puts himself in the apartment. 858 00:34:02,030 --> 00:34:03,430 {\an1}He admits to fighting with the victim. 859 00:34:03,460 --> 00:34:05,760 {\an1}So use the assault charge as leverage, 860 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,200 {\an1}not a homicide you know he didn't commit. 861 00:34:08,230 --> 00:34:09,330 {\an1}Assault gets us nowhere. 862 00:34:09,370 --> 00:34:12,270 {\an1}I need the biggest stick I can get my hands on. 863 00:34:12,300 --> 00:34:14,840 {\an1}Okay, let's target Rodriguez. 864 00:34:14,870 --> 00:34:18,480 {\an1} I know you didn't just do a 180. 865 00:34:18,510 --> 00:34:20,840 {\an1}Judge Delahunt ordered us to convene a grand jury. 866 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,250 {\an1}You call Easton as your first witness, 867 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,080 {\an1}let's see how deep he'll put himself into it. 868 00:34:25,110 --> 00:34:26,480 {\an1}Now, that's pushing the envelope. 869 00:34:27,620 --> 00:34:29,990 {\an1}What do we have to lose? 870 00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:35,730 {\an1}(Easton) I knew Rodriguez might be a problem 871 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,560 {\an1}right after I hired him. 872 00:34:37,590 --> 00:34:40,230 {\an1}In what way, Mr. Easton? 873 00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:42,500 {\an1}You could tell the kid was a hothead. 874 00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:44,830 {\an1}And then I found out he had problems with women. 875 00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:46,540 {\an1}What kind of problems? 876 00:34:46,570 --> 00:34:48,040 {\an1}Well, I got these two gals 877 00:34:48,070 --> 00:34:50,140 {\an1}who do lighting consultations for me. 878 00:34:50,170 --> 00:34:52,110 {\an1}Julio was rude to them. 879 00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:55,280 {\an1}He had this...macho attitude, you know? 880 00:34:55,310 --> 00:34:58,280 {\an1}(McCoy) And yet you kept him on one of your crews. 881 00:34:58,310 --> 00:35:01,480 {\an1}After what happened over there, I'm, I'm sorry I did. 882 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,520 {\an1}Now, you also were at Erin Garrett's building 883 00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:06,020 {\an1}on the morning of the murder, weren't you? 884 00:35:06,060 --> 00:35:08,060 {\an1}I don't remember. 885 00:35:08,090 --> 00:35:09,530 {\an1}Well, the travel log 886 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,090 {\an1}that your office manager keeps 887 00:35:11,130 --> 00:35:13,530 {\an1} indicates that you were there. 888 00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:16,570 {\an1}That's not always accurate. 889 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,040 {\an1}Were you ever on the seventh floor that day? 890 00:35:20,070 --> 00:35:23,440 {\an1} Our job was on the eighth floor. 891 00:35:23,470 --> 00:35:24,610 {\an1}Did you have keys to the construction van 892 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,910 {\an1}parked outside the building? 893 00:35:25,940 --> 00:35:28,210 {\an1}What does this have to do with Julio? 894 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,250 {\an1}In fairness to the accused, I'd like the Grand Jury to know 895 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,280 {\an1} who had access to the nylon lashing 896 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,650 {\an1}that the police found in your van. 897 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,350 {\an1}Anybody on my crew. 898 00:35:37,390 --> 00:35:39,520 {\an1}Including you? 899 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:40,820 {\an1}[scoffs] 900 00:35:40,860 --> 00:35:42,860 {\an1} You know, I'm not gonna answer any more questions 901 00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:44,460 {\an1}without a lawyer. 902 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:49,930 {\an1}I couldn't even pin him down to being in the building. 903 00:35:49,970 --> 00:35:51,970 {\an1}So we'll get him in a room with his lawyer 904 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,300 {\an1}and turn up the heat. 905 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:55,070 {\an1}They know we have nothing but speculation. 906 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,210 {\an1} We need Rodriguez. It's not gonna happen. 907 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:59,680 {\an1}He's willing to take the fall to save his cousins. 908 00:35:59,710 --> 00:36:00,880 {\an1}Call Immigration. 909 00:36:00,910 --> 00:36:02,650 {\an1}Let's propose a raid on the company. 910 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,550 {\an1}We can put Easton Construction out of business. 911 00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,580 {\an1}But what about the people who depend on that work 912 00:36:07,620 --> 00:36:09,020 {\an1}for their livelihood? 913 00:36:09,050 --> 00:36:10,920 {\an1}The only way I can get Rodriguez to cooperate 914 00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:12,890 {\an1}is to take his cousins out of play. 915 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,730 {\an1}So we're gonna use these men and their families as pawns? 916 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,160 {\an1} Easton is the big picture, Connie. 917 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:19,860 {\an1}In more ways than one. 918 00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:21,770 {\an1}Cure the disease by killing the patient. 919 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,000 {\an1}You can't have it both ways. Easton killed Erin Garrett. 920 00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:28,670 {\an1}If he goes down, there's bound to be collateral damage. 921 00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:31,010 {\an1}All right, you might be right, 922 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,410 {\an1}but I'm not gonna be the one to make that phone call. 923 00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,880 {\an1}I won't allow Julio to plead to murder. 924 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,020 {\an1}If that's what he wants, the court will have to relieve me 925 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:45,220 {\an1}and appoint another lawyer. 926 00:36:45,250 --> 00:36:46,820 {\an1}I don't think that will be necessary. 927 00:36:46,860 --> 00:36:49,590 {\an1}Yesterday afternoon, all Easton's construction sites 928 00:36:49,630 --> 00:36:50,960 {\an1}were raided. 929 00:36:50,990 --> 00:36:54,560 {\an1}Eduardo and Ramon Rodriguez were taken into federal custody. 930 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,970 {\an1}They're awaiting their deportation hearings. 931 00:37:03,740 --> 00:37:06,140 {\an1}Why do you do this to them? 932 00:37:06,180 --> 00:37:08,810 {\an1}They didn't do nothing! 933 00:37:08,850 --> 00:37:10,110 {\an1}I'm sorry, Mr. Rodriguez. 934 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:13,220 {\an1}It's the only way I can get justice for Erin Garrett. 935 00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:18,090 {\an1}What do you want from him? 936 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,020 {\an1}The full story this time. 937 00:37:20,060 --> 00:37:22,390 {\an1}What about my family? 938 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:26,560 {\an1}Julio, Julio. 939 00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:30,900 {\an1}¿Quieres que el hombre responsable 940 00:37:30,930 --> 00:37:32,870 {\an1}vaya a la carcel, no? 941 00:37:33,940 --> 00:37:35,140 {\an1}Sí. 942 00:37:35,170 --> 00:37:39,140 {\an1}Eres la única persona que puede hacerlo. 943 00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:42,010 {\an1}Solo tú. 944 00:37:52,660 --> 00:37:54,820 {\an1}After I pushed the lady, 945 00:37:54,860 --> 00:37:57,260 {\an1}I got very worried. 946 00:37:57,290 --> 00:37:59,830 {\an1}So I found Mr. Easton. 947 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:01,600 {\an1}I told him what I did. 948 00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:04,500 {\an1}He told me to take him up there to see. 949 00:38:04,530 --> 00:38:06,040 {\an1}So we went there. 950 00:38:06,070 --> 00:38:08,270 {\an1}What happened? 951 00:38:09,370 --> 00:38:11,640 {\an1}I showed him the lady. 952 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:14,380 {\an1}She was still on the floor. 953 00:38:14,410 --> 00:38:16,780 {\an1}He told me to go back to my work. 954 00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:20,380 {\an1}But he stayed in her apartment. 955 00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:22,790 {\an1}Was that the last time you saw him? 956 00:38:24,590 --> 00:38:26,220 {\an1}No. 957 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:29,390 {\an1}Later, he told me to come down to the street. 958 00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:32,160 {\an1}We sat together in the van. 959 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,700 {\an1}He was very angry. 960 00:38:34,730 --> 00:38:37,600 {\an1}He told me I did a very bad thing, 961 00:38:37,630 --> 00:38:40,040 {\an1}but he took care of my problem. 962 00:38:40,070 --> 00:38:43,710 {\an1}And he told me if I ever say this to anybody, 963 00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:45,870 {\an1}he will fire my cousins 964 00:38:45,910 --> 00:38:48,910 {\an1}and every Latino in his company. 965 00:38:54,780 --> 00:38:57,020 {\an1}Calling my client to testify without immunity-- 966 00:38:57,050 --> 00:38:58,390 {\an1}it's a cheap trick. 967 00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:00,920 {\an1} How'd I know he'd become a suspect? 968 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,460 {\an1}Please. 969 00:39:02,490 --> 00:39:04,560 {\an1} We won't be using any of his testimony against him. 970 00:39:04,590 --> 00:39:05,560 {\an1}Against me? 971 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,900 {\an1}That's right, Mr. Easton. 972 00:39:06,930 --> 00:39:10,130 {\an1}Julio Rodriguez is testifying this afternoon 973 00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:12,970 {\an1} that he left you alone with Erin Garrett 974 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,810 {\an1}in her studio when she was still alive. 975 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,210 {\an1}And I'll be asking the Grand Jury to indict you for murder. 976 00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:20,910 {\an1}I don't believe this. 977 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:23,580 {\an1}You might get an indictment. You'll never get a conviction. 978 00:39:23,610 --> 00:39:26,750 {\an1}Do you wanna roll the dice, Mr. Easton? 979 00:39:26,780 --> 00:39:29,420 {\an1}Why would I kill her? 980 00:39:29,450 --> 00:39:31,320 {\an1}To protect your profit center in illegal workers. 981 00:39:31,350 --> 00:39:32,920 {\an1}Over half of your employees 982 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,760 {\an1}are underpaid, undocumented aliens. 983 00:39:35,790 --> 00:39:37,660 {\an1}Look, maybe I cut a few corners. 984 00:39:37,690 --> 00:39:40,130 {\an1}But it's still my word against the word of this-- 985 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,400 {\an1}this illegal Spanish kid. 986 00:39:42,430 --> 00:39:44,430 {\an1}And who do you think the jury's gonna believe, 987 00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:46,540 {\an1}a kid who busts his ass 60 hours a week 988 00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:48,810 {\an1}to send $75 to his mother 989 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,610 {\an1}or a man who flouts the law 990 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,580 {\an1}and parlays his desperation into a small fortune? 991 00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:56,450 {\an1}If you're convicted of staging Erin Garrett's suicide, 992 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,320 {\an1}I promise you'll do 40 to life. 993 00:39:59,350 --> 00:40:01,580 {\an1}I'm offering you 15. 994 00:40:01,620 --> 00:40:04,120 {\an1}I have a family, a wife and kids. 995 00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:07,760 {\an1}So did Erin Garrett. 996 00:40:07,790 --> 00:40:09,190 {\an1}If you're found guilty after trial, 997 00:40:09,230 --> 00:40:11,790 {\an1}we'll also institute forfeiture proceedings 998 00:40:11,830 --> 00:40:13,060 {\an1}against your property 999 00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:16,470 {\an1}as fruits of criminal activity-- 1000 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,470 {\an1} your co-op in Manhattan, your house in Westhampton. 1001 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:22,410 {\an1}Can we have a moment? 1002 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:25,980 {\an1}They can do that? 1003 00:40:28,510 --> 00:40:31,480 {\an1}[Oscar and Easton murmuring] 1004 00:40:34,980 --> 00:40:37,520 {\an1}Ten years. No property forfeiture. 1005 00:40:37,550 --> 00:40:40,290 {\an1}The deal is 15 to life. 1006 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,960 {\an1}If I didn't hire these people, what else were they gonna do? 1007 00:40:42,990 --> 00:40:45,900 {\an1}How else are they gonna support their families? 1008 00:40:45,930 --> 00:40:48,230 {\an1}That might be a defense in a labor violation, 1009 00:40:48,260 --> 00:40:52,200 {\an1}not a murder. 1010 00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:54,300 {\an1}15 years or a trial... 1011 00:40:54,340 --> 00:40:57,140 {\an1}Mr. Easton. 1012 00:40:59,540 --> 00:41:01,680 {\an1}[exhaling forcefully] 1013 00:41:10,790 --> 00:41:13,620 {\an1}Ali had his card pulled for tampering with Erin's movie. 1014 00:41:13,660 --> 00:41:16,760 {\an1}He's on his way to Pakistan and Julio to Colombia. 1015 00:41:16,790 --> 00:41:18,390 {\an1}And Easton Construction 1016 00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:20,430 {\an1}filed with the Attorney General's office 1017 00:41:20,460 --> 00:41:22,270 {\an1}for dissolution. 1018 00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,470 {\an1}You're a one-man border patrol, Jack. 1019 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:26,370 {\an1}You give me way too much credit. 1020 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,140 {\an1}I don't think so. You cleaned house. 1021 00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:29,370 {\an1}Not really. 1022 00:41:29,410 --> 00:41:31,610 {\an1}You're forgetting Erin Garrett had a Jamaican nanny. 1023 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,740 {\an1}Captioning by CaptionMax www.captionmax.com